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	<title>Comments on: What the&#8230;?&gt; PHP and unwanted whitespace</title>
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		<title>By: potherca</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>potherca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe a bit late in the game, but still...

I've worked for/with a lot of different companies and cutting of the closing tag is one of the first things I tend to add to the coding standards (if they have any... otherwise I just enforce my own ;-)

It hasn't always gone down without a fight though. 
One of the main aids I offer the programmers who don't feel comfortable, despite agreeing with the premise, is to end the file with '# ? &#62;' (can't use '#?&#62;' as the closing tag would still be recognized as such by the parser) or '#EOF'

Both ways you still have an end-
of-file marker, without risking all of the hassle described above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a bit late in the game, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked for/with a lot of different companies and cutting of the closing tag is one of the first things I tend to add to the coding standards (if they have any&#8230; otherwise I just enforce my own <img src='http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t always gone down without a fight though.<br />
One of the main aids I offer the programmers who don&#8217;t feel comfortable, despite agreeing with the premise, is to end the file with &#8216;# ? &gt;&#8217; (can&#8217;t use &#8216;#?&gt;&#8217; as the closing tag would still be recognized as such by the parser) or &#8216;#EOF&#8217;</p>
<p>Both ways you still have an end-<br />
of-file marker, without risking all of the hassle described above.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris, I guess it depends on what IDE your using. Eclipse does a fine job without the ending ?&gt;, and this is the first I’ve heard of an editor tanking without the ?&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, I guess it depends on what IDE your using. Eclipse does a fine job without the ending ?>, and this is the first I’ve heard of an editor tanking without the ?></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I know there are lot of ppl out there who use Notepad, just because they can - personally I use an IDE and anytime I lose the last ?&#62; the IDE goes all funny and gets the color coding confused; So personally I dont think the situation is so simple as clearly the IDE makers need to as follow this convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I know there are lot of ppl out there who use Notepad, just because they can - personally I use an IDE and anytime I lose the last ?&gt; the IDE goes all funny and gets the color coding confused; So personally I dont think the situation is so simple as clearly the IDE makers need to as follow this convention.</p>
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		<title>By: coskunlar vinc</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>coskunlar vinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But we should preserve symmetry at all cost! Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we should preserve symmetry at all cost! Just kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add my thanks here too, much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add my thanks here too, much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Charissa Meems</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>Charissa Meems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thanks for pointing that out!

- C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Thanks for pointing that out!</p>
<p>- C</p>
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		<title>By: Code Conformity &#171; Frontier Label Tech Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>Code Conformity &#171; Frontier Label Tech Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the PEAR coding standards seem to be what most people are relying on.&#160; Even so, thanks to a post from Big Blue Hat, I can help prevent issues in the future with my PHP scripts.&#160; I had no idea that one could [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the PEAR coding standards seem to be what most people are relying on.&nbsp; Even so, thanks to a post from Big Blue Hat, I can help prevent issues in the future with my PHP scripts.&nbsp; I had no idea that one could [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brade good point on frameworks. As mentioned above, Doctrine and Zend are doing it. Hopefully more will follow their lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brade good point on frameworks. As mentioned above, Doctrine and Zend are doing it. Hopefully more will follow their lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Brade</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Brade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is news to me as well. Never knew the closing ?&#62; was considered optional, or that it could be such a headache.

However since most of us PHP developers use frameworks these days, the ball would seem to be mostly in their court on this matter. But I'll do what I can, when I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is news to me as well. Never knew the closing ?&gt; was considered optional, or that it could be such a headache.</p>
<p>However since most of us PHP developers use frameworks these days, the ball would seem to be mostly in their court on this matter. But I&#8217;ll do what I can, when I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon&#8217;s Blog &#187; What the…?&#62; PHP and unwanted whitespace</title>
		<link>http://www.bigbluehat.com/blog/2009/02/18/what-the-php-and-unwanted-whitespace/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon&#8217;s Blog &#187; What the…?&#62; PHP and unwanted whitespace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check out the article and leave your feedback! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Check out the article and leave your feedback! [&#8230;]</p>
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